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Legally getting credit reports for your clients-

How to get a clients report… Legally….
The Fair Credit Reporting Act was created to protect consumers in many ways… As credit professionals we use this law and many others to help consumers exercise their rights!!

 
One of the provisions of FCRA (Fair Credit Reporting Act), is the availability of an individuals credit history, who can view, when they can view etc… 

 
Now… here’s the catch… The law specifically spells out who can get a report and the reasons for someone to be able to get it… Unfortunately a Credit Repair, Credit Consulting, Credit Restoration or any other creative name is not specifically named as an entity that has “Permissible Purpose” to obtain a copy of a clients credit report!!!

  

Sooo… That means, a credit repair company cannot simply contract with a reseller or directly with the credit reporting agencies to quickly gain access to clients credit reports like banks, loan offices, auto dealers can…

Now we can certainly argue that a consumer that grants permission should be able to expeditiously get a report through the conduit of its choice… But the fact is – The credit reporting agencies DON’T like credit repair companies… So regardless of their legal ability to provide the reports to credit repair companies (Which they legally can – if they wanted to) they don’t want to promote credit repair in any way… in fact the credit reporting agencies would rather the consumers have bad credit anyway… * (that’s an article for another time…)

 
Now I know what your thinking… “ I know a Mortgage Guy that can pull reports for me”, “ I know a car salesman that can pull reports for me”…….

 
The truth is that will probably work for a little while… BUT— Short cuts are really long cuts in disguise in the long run… Many have asked me well, what can happen???

 
Remember Credit Reporting Agencies are VERY SMART!!!! They don’t like credit repair companies… They can usually “Smell them from a mile away”—- How?? Well… The Car or Mortgage guy, that has the ability to pull credit, has a permissible purpose- In his current business…. But not for you…. He has a contract with a specific vendor that states what he is allowed to pull credit for… The contract undoubtedly will state that they cannot pull for any reason other than an application for Mortgage or Auto loan,….

 
Now… Here’s what will eventually happen when you take a short cut- The Credit Bureaus SUPERCOMPUTERS will recognize that there are an abnormal amount of credit pulls coming from that certain company…. When they do- they will attempt to establish whether or not the company has expanded (So they can sell them more products)… or whether there is a non permissible purpose problem… Typically the Credit Reporting Agencies won’t care or do anything about a Permissible Purpose problem unless it is costing them $$$$$

 
Now in the example above- The SUPERCOMPUTERS will not only recognize the abnormal (or normal) amount of Pulls… It will calculate the amount of disputes that it receives after a vendor pulls credit…

 
What that means is this:
If the Credit Reporting Agencies recognize (and they will) that it is common to receive a dispute (5 out of 10) after a certain “Authorized” puller pulls a report… then they will SHUT THEM DOWN…. They will ask for proof of the permissible purpose ie; signed loan applications, borrower’s authorizations etc….

  

I’ve been asked “Do they really do that” … the answer is “Sometimes”…. But do you want to me one of those “Sometimes”???

 
Obviously NOT!!!

 
So.. Don’t try the shortcut… the easy route is never really easy…

 
Here’s the right way….

 
While the client is on the phone with you, go to one of the consumer sites… Consumer sites like myfico or Free Credit Report …. There are a ton of them… The ONLY one that I suggest is Myfico.com, these are the same FICO scores that lenders use…

 
So, while the client is on the phone with you, go to the consumer site of your choice and enter the client details… You will need to have the client on the phone with you because there will be security questions that only the client can answer…

 
Now all of the data can be entered and you can get to view the clients report… You will have to pay something… so have your credit card ready and be cautious of signing up for ongoing services… Make sure that any additional services are cancelled right away or you’ll wind up with a surprise when your credit card statement comes….
This is called a “Proxy” order.. A Proxy order is a completely LEGAL way for the consumer to get a copy of his/her report to you quickly… This is called a “Proxy” order because you are acting as the proxy for the consumer…
You are technically typing and using your computer for the consumer…

 

 Many have asked me- “Why don’t you just wait for the consumer to do it themselves”
I think we all know the answer to that one… but just in case… Most consumers will quickly lose interest so you must “get’em while they’re hot”…. Strike while you can… Control the situation by knowing how to get the report fast….

  

Your friend in the credit biz,
Mike Citron

 

 P.S. If you found this information useful- e-mail me … Give me some more motivation to keep these rants coming to you…

 
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  1. Corey says:

    Try getting an affiliate account with a reseller, then buy a domain like "TheBestCreditReport.com", mask it, then link it to affiliate cookie enabled link. You can make $40 per signup and the reseller will have no problem paying you for the referrals. Instead of shelling thousands per month on credit reports, I make thousands :) Hope my 2 cents helps somebody!

  2. Tod says:

    Thanks Mike for the ID Theft Seminar today I learned a lot, esp about the synthetic theft!

  3. Jim Hogle says:

    Great advice as always, we use myfico, mycreditkeeper and annualcreditreport.com all good sites. Myfico does have the lenders scores if you need those. Keep up the good work and all the advice to keep us legal. I know most of us just want to help those in need. See you soon in April.

  4. Steve Meyers says:

    Mike:
    This is a fabulous post. It's always a pain to get folks to send in reports that the bureaus have sent to them when they didn't have to do anything to get them, let alone have to go online themselves and order them in the first place!
    This is good stuff. As usual for you!
    You've set a really high bar–AND YOU EXCEED IT VIRTUALLY EVERY TIME!

    THANK YOU for all that you do.
    S

  5. Sandra Elaine says:

    Hello,
    Interesting comments regarding credit reports that are pulled either online or offline.
    Personally, If someone has the money which is a small fee to get a copy of credit report this may be better in a sense of time. Online will be 45 days for the credit bureau to respond verses going direct to the credit bureau and just pay the fee. You do not have to sign up for the memberships. Just request and pay only for the credit report.

  6. Mike, your webinars are amazing!
    There is so much valuable information, and I really appreciate it.
    I am excited to attend the Credit Repair BootCamp!

    Your staff is very attentive and this information will help me be successful for a long time to come.

    Thank you,
    Jesse
    Cobalt Credit Services

  7. another great webinar…I want to know if you can archive these so people who are still working during the day can watch these in the evening?

  8. I enjoyed the webinar today,as usual, I learn something new from this each week. I want to thank you for making it available to us and taking the time out of your day to do it.

  9. Eric Franklin says:

    Mike
    The credit boot camp was truly amazing. I wish it were more than the 4 days that it was. As a newbie in the industry, this was something that I could not afford to go without if I want to be successful, which I do!
    I hope you are planning on extending the Dallas Boot Camp to 4 days adding that newbie day on as well!

  10. Mike,
    I have attended lots of conferences and seminars during my lifetime but your Boot Camp was the VERY Best. It was ful of great content, new cutting-edge ideas, and some terrific speakers. I believe that the valuable information I gained will make me 100-fold the price of admission. Thanks for all your help.

  11. Marco says:

    Great webinar Mike, thanks for the info…it was my first and I can honestly tell you will NOT be my last! Please send me a copy of your Expose if possible!

    Thank you

  12. Great article Sensei Mike! Thanks for always providing top notch advice and service. You are changing the industry for the better. The Tampa Boot Camp was awesome and I can’t wait for Dallas in October 2010 !!!

  13. Trevor says:

    Mike,

    I always love the great educational material you enjoy so much to share with us. I have started using MyFICO.com for reports due to this blog posting. I enjoy reading up on every post as a matter of fact. I highly consider you to keep it coming, PLEASE….
    Furthermore I can't wait to see you guys here in Big D!

    Thanks Mike

  14. Janet says:

    Great Ideas shared here! Is it necessary to have a signed PROXY Form BEFORE you get online to pull the credit report with the client on the phone?

    I know that the more I learn, the more I know there is to learn. I feel Blessed that Mike Citron is willing to share his vast knowledge and skills. Thank you Mike!

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